Ore dake Level Up na Ken Season 2: Arise from the Shadow Episode 7 Discussion

keirashii said:
This show is not beating the allegations. Every character and the entire world & episode itself now rotates around Jin-Woo without any shame or subtleness. Side-characters, who have seldom any development, personality or characterization, are essentially basing their entire monologues and screen presence around the protagonist. At this point I'm pretty sure that, at least, 70% of dialogue is about Jin-Woo in some way or another. It feels less like an actual world and more like a lazy power fantasy where everything is catered to make Sung Jin-Woo look even COOLER!! than before, as how convenient it is that a celebrity is there JUST as Jin-Woo has to take the test, how the S-Class hunters are now jobbers who formally greet Jin-Woo and are there just to be amazed by his powers, try to recruit him and tie inner monologues in trying to figure out whats going on—even if its obvious as fuck. Everything is in place to be "outcooled" by Jin-Woo. The author is violating his entire world to make it rotate around Jin-Woo at this point and its not even funny, a celebrity is being interviewed by paparazzis, he walks in, grabs the attention, everyone is ready to greet him, everyone is surprised, everyone is waiting for him when he gets out, everyone is like "holy shit how powerful is he!!" ad NAUSEAM. Showing us EACH AND EVERY SINGLE side character reacting to the news of Sung Jin-Woo doesn't help the allegations of the author making it so every character rotates around him. As I predicted, Minsung was overwhelmed by Jin-Woo, obviously, everything has to be about him. Not only is the shop absurdly broken to get items, but they are also MUCH cheaper than real life—another hack I guess. Who in the fuck made this terrible hud and RPG stuff that are so easily exploitable and badly designed? This is why I don't call these things "characters" but rather Sung Jin-Woo's addons.

The strongest wizard in the korean hunters is now outmogged by Jin-Woo, one of the strongest melee fighters is now outmogged by Jin-Woo, Hwang vanished away but he's also probably outmogged by Jin-Woo, etc; our protagonist is a flanderizing maelstrom that demands everything and everyone be degraded and put to his service, but this empowerment is not earned, as it is forged by a million conveniences, contrivances and lifehacks that practically guarantee Jin-Woo's chaddification. Jin-Ho is Sung Jin-Woo's cucklord now and his ENTIRE character revolves around him. His paladin self goes nowhere, his hunter self goes nowhere, and his guild thing is probably going to be handled by our protagonist. Classic "friend of main character" archetype. We are shown a BREADCRUMB of something else rather than Jin-Woo's power paraphernalias, his idea of letting shades protect the city was interesting, and some more introspection would have been cool and... nope, it is cut to Jin-Ho and Jin-Woo talking in the car. YOU WERE SO CLOSE. You know the bar is abysmally low when I consider this to be somewhat of a better segment, even with how insignificant it is. Why... is he asking Jin-Ho for a car ride when he can just move around at like flash speed? Much faster than a car? An S-Hunter class couldnt follow his movement, so a paparazzi wouldnt be able to see him either.

Also A-1 Pictures' style is so fucking ugly and derivative holy shit, like whats up with Jin-Woo's dorito ass face.

In fact, our main character is so BADASS and COOL that he can just AFK certain floors of the Demon Tower. NGL. Having a gigantic orc shaman as a summon is pretty cool. And... some demon knights are defeating Jin-Woo's simpler summons, I was expecting them to be some bigger bad guys but... Jin-Woo just annihilates them. I should expect nothing at this point. The MP drainage shit is not a good tension point as Jin-Woo has fucking potions, this anime will not fool me. That ending was so cringe, Linkin Park in the background and Jin-Woo with LowTierGod's eyes saying "They also feel fear too" or some corny semi-Nietzschean shit like that... this is not badass, it's just cringe.

1/5

Confused_100 said:
Okay it’s a good episode but I have problems here.

The first half of the episode, believe it or not, wasn’t rushed. The Jinho situation wasn’t rushed but rearranged for the manhwa readers who don’t know this. And I personally like some of the changes they did with it. Now the reassessment was a bit underwhelming in some cases because of the animation but it is a low priority episode and it shows in the later half.

Now the second half is where my biggest fear and problem lies. The ant should have shown up in a city not a random park… The ant should look more menacing than that like cmon that’s the final big bad of this season and the thing they were hyping up since last season jeju island. The demon’s castle part 2 intro was rushed in a very bad way imho as well. Also that mini arc has a very interesting storyline and it should have shown that by that final scene where the demons have intelligence and something interesting will be shown next episode.

Now why the fear? Well I can be okay with that intro part being rushed and changes but my fear is: I truly hope they don’t rush the whole mini arc and the big fight of it next episode, because it is one of my favourite fights of the whole manhwa. Also I do hope they show the ant scene as they are cutting to the epilogue of some actions here and that’s what makes me worried.

So the only hope in my mind is: The next episode will be the plot heavy one, and the next one after that would be where one of the big fights episodes, that should theoretically be better than any fight we have seen, yes better than Sung jinwoo and igris without a doubt. Again my fear is they will rush everything to the big fight, but maybe they will rearrange something here or do what I hope for lol

keirashii said:
@Unknown_Guy100 Hey man, I just write my thoughts, even better if someone resonates with it, but thats it. I hope you keep enjoying the show. I personally feel like a balance of both is best.

nvxiis said:

From what I know, the next big fight will be shown in full in the later half of next episode.

Confused_100 said:
Bruh doesn’t get the title of “Solo Leveling”. What does Solo mean to you? I am very curious lol

keirashii said:
@Confused_100 That's not my point. Jin-Woo "Solo Leveling" doesn't deny the fact that no side-characters ever get any valuable development or screen presence by themselves and that they are degraded to rotate around our main character; if anything, this kills the prospect of "Solo Leveling" as everything and everyone we know in this world rotate around him and are flanderized to work as his addons, nothing else. The mere microscopical breadcrumbs we get are overwhelmed by an eager need to constantly give Jin-Woo a metaphorical fellatio in the name of aggrandizing his ego even more. I still know close to nothing of Yoon-Ho's character, I still know close to nothing of Jong-In's character, I still know close to nothing about Hwang, or Ignis' past, or the Frost Elves, or the Orcs, I still know close to nothing of Jin-Woo's sister, or Jin-Ho, or Hae-In, or Gun-Hee, or everybody else for that matter, I still know close to nothing of THIS ENTIRE WORLD—yet, despite this obscene focus in Jin-Woo's character, his substance is close to none. Does Naruto Shippuden focus purely on Naruto and never develop any of its side characters? Does Mob Psycho focus EXCLUSIVELY on Shigeo Kageyama? No, your point of the title of this work being some sort of restrictive chain for the author is ridiculous, and using it as some kind of excuse for their creative bankruptcy is even more astounding.

EvilJuju said:

I have been mulling over this recently. And I have to say I will rate this show a 10/10 if the direction it is taking is that the MC will leave the "real world characters behind" and assembles a cool shadow team who become the main party around which the show revolves. Feels like he is starting to talk more with his shadow army. And it would be a cool twist.

At the same time, someone mentioned that this is a novice writer's first work, so we should not expect sophisticated plots. So I think its safe just to expect more mediocrity to follow.

Tha_Bolo said:
@FullyCharged You should read the sequel manga, which is centered around Jinwoo's son Suho. It's called Solo Leveling: Ragnarok.

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deg said:
best girl next episode?

baek now realize jinwoo can level up in power

also the ants will be here soon